Vance: Blue States Have Already Maxed Out Gerrymandering, Illegals In Census

 Vice President J.D. Vance commented on the GOP effort to redistrict the congressional districts in red states like Texas and Indiana, and President Trump's plan to do a new census that does not count illegal aliens, during an interview with FNC's "Sunday Morning Futures" host Maria Bartiromo.

VICE PRESIDENT J.D. VANCE: We spoke with the governor, with the speaker of the House there in Indiana and the Senate president, and the message I delivered is pretty straightforward.

We want a unified Republican team. We want to fight together, win together, make big things happen for the American people, and obviously the people of the state of Indiana together.

But one of the things that you see in a lot of red states is, blue states have really aggressively gerrymandered such that they have actually made it harder for the majority of the state of Indiana to have their voice heard in their federal elections, because if California has crazy gerrymanders, Illinois has crazy gerrymanders, New York has crazy gerrymanders, what it does is, it actually suppresses the will of the people in states like Indiana.

And the other thing that we talked about -- and I didn't even realize this, Maria, until a couple of years ago, that, you know, for apportioning representatives, you actually count illegal aliens. So, even though illegal aliens theoretically are not supposed to vote -- we know sometimes they do -- you still count illegal aliens for congressional apportionment.

So California has way more House seats than it should because they have such a high population of illegal aliens. So they get rewarded for welcoming illegal aliens into their state, giving them federal benefits, actually asking the taxpayers of states like Ohio to subsidize them.

And then those same taxpayers in Ohio and Indiana and elsewhere, they have fewer congressional representatives because of what California has allowed to happen. That's ridiculously unfair. And the only real way to fight back against it is for us to redistrict in some ways as aggressively as these hard blue states have done.

MARIA BARTIROMO: Well, that's an important point. And that is why President Trump said that he wants more work or new work on a new census. How does that change the GOP makeup and the electoral votes?

VANCE: Yes, so another crazy thing that I had no idea about, but everybody, even Democrats actually admit this, that the census in 2020 had a major statistical error.

And what that meant is that you actually undercounted a few states that are Republican like Florida and Ohio. You overcounted some blue states. And so what I understand, if you actually did the census anew right now, you would have 10 additional Republican seats and nine fewer Democrat seats.

And really what we're living with, Maria, is the consequence of 40 years of institutional control in the Democratic Party. These guys have fought very dirty for a very long time. And they haven't just won elections and enacted laws that we may not agree with. They have tried to rig the game for Democrats and against Republicans.

And, thankfully, under President Trump's leadership, you finally see some spine. You finally see some backbone in the Republican Party to fight back against these very aggressive Democratic dirty tricks. But the only way for us to do it is to actually go and do the hard work to reset the scales a little bit.

What we want to do is redo the census, but, importantly, we want to redistrict some of these red states. And we want to make the congressional apportionment fair in this country. Again, you cannot do it unless Republicans actually take some very decisive action in the months to come.

We think they will, and we're obviously supporting them every step of the way.

BARTIROMO: But do you worry that, as Republicans do that, the Democrat blue states are going to do the same thing, and then you will have redistricting in California, New Jersey, and so on?

VANCE: You know, Maria, there's just not a whole lot of juice left out of that lemon. The Democrats have already gone as far as they possibly can.

Let me give you a crazy statistic. So I believe that it's in New Jersey, Illinois, New York, California, and there's one other Democrat state where you take those five states. You have a large number of Democrat representatives, but here's the crazy statistic. President Trump won 43 percent of those five states, and Democrats have something like 85 percent of the representatives out of those states.

You cannot gerrymander these far left states anymore, and that's the whole point. We have unilaterally disarmed in the Republican Party. We have said to the Democrats, if you want to rig the game in your favor in blue states, go ahead. We're going to do nothing to fight back against it. That's crazy.

It makes it harder for us to pass our agenda. It makes it harder for us to win elections. And, most importantly, it gives Democrats this ability to run roughshod over the country without any pushback from the American people. The democratic system in this country is broken, because who you vote for doesn't necessarily get reflected in who your representatives are.

We're just trying to rebalance the scales and, frankly, push back against a very unfair system created by the Democrats.

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